The lamps you're not allowed to have. Exploring the Dubai lamps

12-Yan, 2021
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These fascinating lamps are a result of a collaboration between Philips Lighting and Sheikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum - the ruler of Dubai.
They are designed to be the most efficient available, matching high lumen output with very long life. Once you see the construction and circuitry you'll realise this isn't just marketing spin.
In return for the development Philips gained exclusive rights to manufacture the lamps for a fixed duration, extending from their announcement in 2016. Philips expect to have supplied 10 million of the lamps by the end of 2021.
There is a requirement for new installations to use the new lamp, which has upset some designers and architects, as they are only available in 8 forms. 3W and 2W globes, a 1W candle globe and a 3W MR16 12V downlight version. All four available in either cool daylight or warm white to make up the eight options. This restricts the style of the lamp shape and excludes warmer whites unless coloured by a shade. They're also not dimmable, which contributes greatly to their reliability, but does require a more open minded approach to lighting design.
The range also excludes the GU10 format, which isn't a bad thing as they're probably one of the least reliable lamps due to the use of electronics in a confined space with hot LEDs.
These lamps are currently only available in Dubai. The likelihood of them appearing elsewhere is limited by the fact that they are designed to last a long time, which isn't profitable for the manufacturers. Maybe that'll change over time.
Although Philips have initial exclusivity of supply, it'll be interesting to see what happens when that period of time comes to an end. Will the other manufacturers make the same amount of effort as Philips did?
Slight correction. The two MOSFET gate resistors are actually 4.7Mohm and not 470K, which makes sense for gate voltage protection.
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  • Nice calculator

    Isaac LinnIsaac Linn25 daqiqa oldin
  • yup, superb analysis, with incumbent trouser warnings. perfection.

    Twobob ClubTwobob Club33 daqiqa oldin
  • This is why that one lamp in America have been on for 100 years

    Stove PipeStove Pipe51 daqiqa oldin
  • Great explanation, especially the marketing collaboration. Personally I prefer a cooler white lamp. Around 3800 to 4000k. I find warm white a bit yellow and old fashioned .

    Paul SaundersPaul SaundersSoat oldin
  • I have zero interest in light bulbs that don't shine all colors of the rainbow. And even less interest in lights I can't buy/don't even know about. So why am I 8 minutes into this video and loving it?

    Emmet OcampoEmmet OcampoSoat oldin
  • Must be nice to be a dictator of a country!

    Dan Quayles ITS SPELT POTATOES!Dan Quayles ITS SPELT POTATOES!Soat oldin
    • @Dan Quayles ITS SPELT POTATOES! Took you long to look it up.

      OkurkaOkurka14 daqiqa oldin
    • @Okurka "Dubai isn't a country." I didnt say it was!

      Dan Quayles ITS SPELT POTATOES!Dan Quayles ITS SPELT POTATOES!34 daqiqa oldin
    • @Okurka You dont think hes in with the Dictator of the UAE who im talking about?

      Dan Quayles ITS SPELT POTATOES!Dan Quayles ITS SPELT POTATOES!34 daqiqa oldin
    • Dubai isn't a country.

      OkurkaOkurka58 daqiqa oldin
  • They are available on Amazon, they are 240v bulb so for the USA it is not workable for most of us. But its cool. We will have them soon enough. I started buying led bulbs when they were 20 usd each, I'd buy one per paycheck. Now you can buy an 8 pack for less than 20 usd.

    Disillusioned AmericanDisillusioned American2 soat oldin
  • What is the point of this video?

    DQDQ2 soat oldin
  • Perfect example of how product evolution can lead longer lasting and sustainable products. But, greed once again ruins any chance of this making an impact. "They are designed to last a long time, which isn't profitable for the manufacturers." The population is increasing at a dangerous rate which means new housing and thus the need for new lights is unlimited. But, CEOs would rather have a 7th house and a 4th yacht right now, then leave the world to burn after they aren't here to deal with it.

    Dalton SampsonDalton Sampson2 soat oldin
    • Not gonna lie I would do the same too

      619guy202619guy20258 daqiqa oldin
  • Little does the sheikh know how much energy superconductor products cost to manufacture... it's absurd. LEDs are obviously far more simple than memory and processors, but almost every semiconductor process is very energy intensive. So 4x the LEDs hardly seems the answer to real efficiency, unless the actual life cycle is much greater than 4x the typical lamp.

    Tanner BeanTanner Bean2 soat oldin
    • It is more efficient because you’re running them at half the power

      619guy202619guy20257 daqiqa oldin
  • i was watching this video in the dead of night, thanks very much for the light warnings.

    RaidouRaidou2 soat oldin
  • Nice recommended section.

    ColeslawColeslaw2 soat oldin
  • this explains why all my cheap led bulbs die after a couple years. I wonder if just putting them all on dimmers and undervolting them that way will have the same effect... assuming the bulbs are dimmable in the first place.

    Michael ChoiMichael Choi3 soat oldin
  • It would be interesting to understand why a typical variation of the supply does not lead to the Zeners conducting... As for the duplicated components, the lower-power version probably has only 1 of each pair fitted.

    Jonathan ScottJonathan Scott3 soat oldin
  • Interesting. Corporations will be working hard to kill the use of this.

    ScooterFXRSScooterFXRS3 soat oldin
  • I've one of those bad lamps and it has run for more than two years straight now.

    albert magicianalbert magician4 soat oldin

    Master RobotnikMaster Robotnik4 soat oldin
  • AvE sent me. Cool video.

    richard dyottrichard dyott4 soat oldin
  • Explains a lot. Philips is notorious for brilliant inventions and then not making money from them. How did they sell off ASML who supplies to whole world with processor technology (the machines that make chips)?

    Clair de LawnClair de Lawn4 soat oldin
  • All i have to say, they have to work harder as inventors/engineers to be able to make something Not as efficient enough to break down after a predicted amount of time but efficient enough to work in an acceptable manner for the masses. Money hinders our progress.

    Jose RomanJose Roman4 soat oldin
  • Politics. Politics. Politics. Light bulb surgery 👍

    עמנואלעמנואל4 soat oldin
  • I purchased 4 of the Dubai lamps in Walmart yesterday they work great and here in US the guarantee is 7 years.

    Walter HynsonWalter Hynson4 soat oldin
    • He’s right my house burned down

      619guy202619guy20255 daqiqa oldin
    • The ones you got are probably 1W per filament and will run hot.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcom2 soat oldin
  • Nice voice. I’d like to suggest you try making ASMR videos if you haven’t already. Cheers

    S. NilsenS. Nilsen4 soat oldin
  • Guessing it would cost a crap load more to make them than the ones they sell everywhere else

    Benson HedgesBenson Hedges4 soat oldin
  • Longer life bulbs exist and will simply cost more because the lamp manufacturers still engineer the bulb longevity for a set profitability. The Phoebus cartel existed to maintain the profitability of the incandescent light bulb but became obsolete once the free market took hold and light bulbs became ubiquitous . A user modding bulbs to run in a more efficient part of there thermal curve would be the best way to improve cheap bulbs. I am sure Philips will market a very similar bulb to commercial enterprise, but restrict it on the open market to protect it's profits.

    Terry LawrenceTerry Lawrence4 soat oldin
  • Dubai? More like Dubai yourself a new fucking lamp (i love squidbillies)

    Green TeaGreen Tea4 soat oldin
  • Is it legal to put these on ebay so we can access them globally?

    Paulus AureliusPaulus Aurelius4 soat oldin
    • If they could they would be there already.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcom2 soat oldin
  • Good to hear someone with advanced knowledge agreeing about the r2 test, Zs tells us all we need to know, and IR if you need to know the condition of the cables (possible damage, age, etc) Great well presented videos. Keep up the good work. Many thanks, Pete 👍

    Peter CPeter C4 soat oldin
  • It is the same everywhere.. I still have a Nokia 3310, its battery still works, it turns on and it still works after 20 years but I also have a Apple iPhone 11 that is simply unable to last 20 years let alone 5 or 10 years with exceptional treatment and care. We live in a throw away and consume more society made by the elites who profit from consumers and capitalism and if we are to ever go forwards as a race we need to learn how to cancel out greed that corrupts everything!! PS: I bookmarked this so I can watch it later because I have to be a good girl, go out and be on time hey!!

    Violet SobieskiViolet Sobieski5 soat oldin
    • You’re a good little girl aren’t you?

      619guy202619guy20252 daqiqa oldin
  • You should do a bunch of videos about the gadgets that are taboo!

    Terry LawrenceTerry Lawrence5 soat oldin
  • them lambs are electroluminescence or Electrochemiluminescence LE Wire Cable,

    jimsim /|\jimsim /|\5 soat oldin
    • They're not electroluminescent. Very different technology.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcom2 soat oldin
  • I thought the only lamp you're not allowed to have in Dubai is ALLADIN LAMP. Anyways nice to know there's a wide range of bulb/lamp from philips that i have not seen before.

    Nexus4 EverNexus4 Ever5 soat oldin
  • Lets just boycott Phillips until they start selling them everywhere

    Dare RobertsonDare Robertson5 soat oldin
  • Didn't know these existed. I don't even know anything about lamps or the wire stuffs (I don't even know their proper terms LOL) interesting.

    ooXChrissieXooooXChrissieXoo5 soat oldin
  • Most of the general public has no idea what a Lumen is. Not to say that are dumb, they are bombarded with new tech information and jargon and unless they actually have a project either forced or hobby they won't know or care about topics like this. Similar to plastics. I had no idea how many variations of plastics existed before i got into 3d printing now i know way too much for it to be practical. Love this content and the average viewer of channels like this is not the general consumer, i would assume there are a ton of makers and tinkerers as well as professional engineers.

    Osiris RexOsiris Rex6 soat oldin
  • How did you get one then

    999sian999sian6 soat oldin
    • A channel supporter worked in Dubai.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcom2 soat oldin
  • I scrolled through the video so I may have missed it. But what is the retail cost diffrence from the dubi vs us bulbs?

    Richard TRichard T6 soat oldin
    • About 2-4 times.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcom2 soat oldin
  • UZworld's recommendation algorithm is a strange thing, but I watched the entire video. I've never left the State of Texas, so I love stuff like this that I'll probably never see. 👀

    AV6QAV6Q6 soat oldin
  • why does he call them lamps. when they are just bulbs. i thought a lamp stands up fro m the ground or floor.

    xxpyroxx75xxpyroxx756 soat oldin
    • Eeeeeeee My guy just shut you uppp

      619guy202619guy20250 daqiqa oldin
    • It literally says "Dubai lamp" on the box.

      OkurkaOkurka51 daqiqa oldin
    • Lamp glow, bulbs grow.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcom2 soat oldin
  • He cares about my eyes more than I care about them.

    Jaspreet SinghJaspreet Singh6 soat oldin
  • " lamp of america "1, 1.5, 2. watts for 4bucks .china makes it.. 12 or so years ago i pop them open and fix them. pop one out of my socket. dirty allmost cant read it so long ago .... later folks

    mike allenmike allen6 soat oldin
  • On the shelf at Bunnings Australia wide

    Allan PikeAllan Pike6 soat oldin
    • Not this one. You get the hot running, inefficient 1W per filament version.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcom2 soat oldin
  • if you think philips holding back great things in order to make more money is bad.. you should hear about the US government!

    VorniceVornice6 soat oldin
  • oh i forgot 120 volts when they fail i just fix them

    mike allenmike allen6 soat oldin
  • All the more reason to back the makers movement. I'm sure some hobbyist could do better. At 20x the cost

    iindium49iindium496 soat oldin
  • A major concern with so many of LED products is the R/F interference being put out. THe FCC has been asleep at the switch in getting on top of this matter.

    Louis CarlinerLouis Carliner7 soat oldin
    • This lamp should be pretty quiet.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcom2 soat oldin
  • That's a pity - even the classic version of these are pretty good bulbs.

    Laura FarrellLaura Farrell7 soat oldin
  • Could barely understand you.

    TedTed7 soat oldin
  • The led strip filament lamps are the most innefficient, fragile and comlicated to produce. You must of gone back in time 10 years just to buy them, unless you live somewhere phillips is dumping old technology to recoup losses in development costs. It was really interesting to see you inspect the inner workings and produce a drawing.

    Stephen KiernanStephen Kiernan7 soat oldin
    • The technology has evolved greatly.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
  • I will certainly NOT be starting a business smuggling dubai lamps into the UK. Nope, never.

    Ian DallenbachIan Dallenbach7 soat oldin
  • Absolutely mind-blowing. Hats off to Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum.

    tutelariustutelarius7 soat oldin
  • Because I come from a computer background, I would have to say these LED's make the light go faster, ha :p That being said, it does make sense that if you CAN undervolt them then yes it conserves power and should yield a savings in power. THis holds true IF you can do the same to other semi-condectors too like CPU's and GPU's.

    John MijoJohn Mijo7 soat oldin
  • And guess why the two zeners are present.Voltage between mosfet's drain and negative ground in less than 12v when leds are lit.So mosfet specifications of VDS voltage between drain and source is enough to be 15v-20v and zener diodes are simply for the startup until voltage between VGS rise to 8-10V and the circuit operates the VDS is a lot higher and this moment the zeners are regulate VDS to 12v.

    George GeorgeGeorge George7 soat oldin
  • Ahh. Light bulb manufactures not happy about LED's lasting long so shorten their lifespan. Although I hope my Philips Hue bulbs last long because those were expensive.

    BaffleBaffle8 soat oldin
  • Outch... Looming how you use tge electronic cutter like a can opener hurts

    dg9bfcdg9bfc8 soat oldin
  • Is it a... FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER!? I'll let myself out...

    Lord BaphomelLord Baphomel8 soat oldin
    • That doesn't exist.

      OkurkaOkurka44 daqiqa oldin
  • Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum is gonna be wondering where his bulbs have gone 😂

    BaffleBaffle8 soat oldin
    • We are going to take all his bulbs.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
  • These would make great vanity lamps, especially if they were 4500K and 90+ CRI. Any more than 2500 lumens in a typical bathroom would be insane. And I suspect they could get the same lifetime driving the 3W to 4W (750lm?) if they sunk heat from the driver and used solid caps.

    concinnusconcinnus8 soat oldin
  • Your pronunciation of the Prince's name is spot on. Cheers!

    ALI BHRAALI BHRA8 soat oldin
  • Most boring video I've watched all day. Correction, most boring video I've watched this decade.

    Todd no last nameTodd no last name8 soat oldin
    • Lol cause you know nothing of electronics now go mindlessly play video games and get fat

      619guy202619guy20246 daqiqa oldin
    • Thank you. It feels like a great achievement.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
  • Just come to the comments as I dont have time to watch the long winded video to get the answer, thanks comment people 👍

    Ray TaylorRay Taylor9 soat oldin
    • The video was like AMAZING.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
  • I used to chauffeur for Dubai's Royal family in the UK and they hit the roof when they saw how much it cost for Diesel (£1.02 per ltr at the time) because they paid equivalent to 18.6p per ltr at home so definitely money talks

    Alan ShaylerAlan Shayler9 soat oldin
  • Would love to get my hands on some of those candle bulbs

    Munky332Munky3329 soat oldin
  • What make are the blue snips? Thanks.

    gravey07gravey079 soat oldin
    • They're cheap eBay brand. (Search for "side cutters" and select cheapest first.)

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
  • so are they gas filled? will they illuminate without the glass? (obviously dangerous to do but out of curiosity)

    Ashley CardwellAshley Cardwell9 soat oldin
    • May actually be helium for thermal transfer.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
    • @Okurka Air.

      Bob SmithBob Smith3 soat oldin
    • They are filled with a mixture of nitrogen, oxygen, argon and carbon dioxide.

      OkurkaOkurka8 soat oldin
    • scratch that, ive just watched the rest of the video :D

      Ashley CardwellAshley Cardwell9 soat oldin
  • 200 lm/watt isnt magic. there are lots of mid-power horticultural lamps that do that. same concept. run more diodes at lower current

    Soft UniverseSoft Universe9 soat oldin
  • It would be funny if while you’re listening to his voice and watching his hands you suddenly hear (fwaaaackthsh!) and brain mater blows all over the table!😂

    4R NORTHWEST4R NORTHWEST9 soat oldin
    • That would totally go viral.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
  • Big tech screwing us .

    Dean ConstantineDean Constantine9 soat oldin
  • The LED current is limited by the two 250 volt capacitors rated 250 volts or higher. Voltages can vary thus the voltage limiter circuits. See these everywhere now days. Special coated X or Y capacitors are required for safety! 'Inductive Reactance = 2*pi*frequency*inductance 'Capacitive Reactance = 1/(2*pi*frequency*capacitance) INPUT "Enter AC supply voltage: ", voltage& '= 120 USA ACfreq = 60 ' 50 'in Europe and Asia? INPUT "Capacitor farads(1uf = .000001) or microfarads >= .001:"; capacity '= .000000068 IF capacity >= .001 THEN capacity = capacity / 1000000: PRINT USING ".############ farads"; capacity Creact& = 1 / (8 * ATN(1) * ACfreq * capacity) '2PI is ATN value "Reactance = ########,.## ohms"; Creact& current = voltage& / Creact& "Supply Current = ##.###### amps"; current

    Ted WeissgerberTed Weissgerber9 soat oldin
  • The amount of time and used necessary to recoup the cost on replacing all your lightbulbs with led is barely worth it. If you really want to cut down on energy use then look into all your high draw appliances! Like electric water heaters which are constantly keeping 70 gallons of water hot 24hrs a day using a goddamned toaster oven! It’s horribly inefficient! If you’re bill were high and you had that water heater but changed all your lightbulbs to led you literally see no difference in your bill🙄

    4R NORTHWEST4R NORTHWEST9 soat oldin
  • I could swear I have seen those bulbs for sale in EU. I will have to go and take a look.

    Andronache RemusAndronache Remus9 soat oldin
    • You've probably seen the standard 1W per filament version. They're very common.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
  • its more efficient, last longer, and its brighter, can't sell that, the accountants would poop a brick.

    nickademuss42nickademuss4210 soat oldin
  • Clive: And this has pissed architects off completely royally... Me: O sod, I won't lose my job to a robot but to a mere 3W lamp.

    AnEvil DroogAnEvil Droog10 soat oldin
  • Somehow I am sure the market will soon be flooded with these "dubai lamps". Yes made in china. not philips. They're pretty bright indeed. For worklight purpose I think these lamps should be really convenient. Proper lighting indeed. Cool-colortemperature light is not so environmentally friendly. warm-temperature light is more yellow-ish, more red spectrum part coming off it. Another topic which seems to come into "trend" now just because of Covid19: Amazon sells larger "disinfection" lamps actually, having such a UV-C lamp (about 50 euros) which you already have presented in one of your former videos. Does this make sense? I understand to have this lamp only in operation while I am NOT in the respective room to be currently disinfected. You said: "That's the problem: it looks stunning.. but we don't want to be in the room with this kind of lighting"... (maybe in daily practice: switch it on, go shopping meanwhile for an hour and switch it off when you are back or so)

    Bernd J PBernd J P10 soat oldin
  • just wait for Poled lighting to become mainstream, everything will change. or just wait a few more years for my invention! one day you can spray the 'light' wherever you want. no danger, minimal costs. edit: i could cry😢 and 🤬! i'm late, again! just found out about lumilor... sprayable light!!! god i'm too poor to even get a patent and they already made it possible and sell a starter kit...

    Mr. G-sezMr. G-sez10 soat oldin
  • Amazing what can be accomplished with money. Phillip’s wants to over run so they sell more bulbs. I would bet that this tech will be shelved like countless others that would change the world.

    All Things M3All Things M310 soat oldin
  • Dubai litteraly owns everything. They also own most North American media corporations and websites. Think about it 😉

    Jon MJon M10 soat oldin
  • Why do i see this?

    Eddie MichaelEddie Michael10 soat oldin
    • Because it has lit up with double lumens.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
  • The Möth Brothers want to thanks to you for uncovering the secret of the sacred Dubai Lämp. Deus inhabitare facit unius moris. AssaLÄMPmualayekum.

    Zidan TaufiqZidan Taufiq10 soat oldin
  • kinda like running a 100w led with around 10 ma, small amount of power but a really decent amount of light coming out of it

    MN SHPMN SHP10 soat oldin
  • This is so strange.

    R69NiXR69NiX10 soat oldin
  • @13m: Why is the image on the right (of the circuit card) mirror imaged ? Is that to aid in circuit tracing? Cheers.

    J HJ H10 soat oldin
    • Yes. It makes it a lot easier.

      bigclivedotcombigclivedotcomSoat oldin
  • Thanks very much for the video..But seriously mate, you really do need to get out more 👍😀

    Stanley KellyStanley Kelly10 soat oldin
  • This is the same reason 50 years ago TV's lasted 25 years and now they last 3 years!! Manufacturers run all of the components inside so that they won't last!

    OneStop TechnologiesOneStop Technologies10 soat oldin
  • Kudos to you for investigating these bulbs I never heard of.

    Golden ShineGolden Shine11 soat oldin
  • Since these LEDs are only enclosed in glass for protection, not because it's low pressure, we could take the glass off, transplant LED strips from three or four other bulbs, and Bob's your aunty, because 4 bulbs are cheaper than the lifetime of five, right?

    sleekweaselsleekweasel11 soat oldin
  • Your pronunciation of his highness name is correct

    Salman AlamriSalman Alamri11 soat oldin
  • Guys, Are serious? This video is a joke? At the beginning of the video it is quite clear he compares a dimmable bulb with a non-dimmable Philips 'Dubai' bulb . A dimmable bulb uses 1-2 Watt power more for the dimmable circuit. For that reason it is not strange that that the dimmable bulb uses more power. In this case you must do a test between non-dimmable and non-dimmable Dubai lamps. So yes one circuits looks completely different. The one is a dimmable circuit and the other non-dimmable bulb. And in that situation four serial connected are difficult, so not, to dimmable.

    MrAtlantis95MrAtlantis9511 soat oldin
  • You have a voice simmilar to some actor. I just cant place it... Great video, btw.

    Jakov BrižićJakov Brižić11 soat oldin
  • Good to know. I will not buy anything from Phillips for at least 5 years from now.

    Pale O'PterixPale O'Pterix11 soat oldin
  • I found this video... enlightening. Lol

    MrGrombieMrGrombie11 soat oldin
  • isn't 245V too high? i mean it should be around 220-230, no?

    Sailor OnDaTeaSailor OnDaTea11 soat oldin
    • No, 230V + 10% = 253V max.. Besides, the UK isn't in the EU anymore.

      OkurkaOkurka8 soat oldin
  • I've seen these lamps being sold in Brazil as a very expensive "retro vintage decorative" led lamp, different glass format but same extra amount of filaments.

    Furmiga HumanaFurmiga Humana12 soat oldin
  • The architects and the artsy fartsy people can shove it. This could half the building's power consumption overnight, don't you think people and business want that more than a dumb looking designer lamp?

    AIO inc.AIO inc.12 soat oldin
  • I’m guessing they also needed some of that extra circuitry to handle the dimming function.

    ntsecretsntsecrets12 soat oldin
  • Never mind the Dubai lamps. What about the Dubai limp and the Dubai Lump? What about the Dubai Amp? It must be electrifying! What about the Dubai Clamp? That's how they treat prisoners. What about the Dubai Stamp? The Postal Service needs it. What about the Dubai Ramp? Wheelchair users need it. What about the Dubai Cramp? It's a muscular pain linked to heat and sand. What about the Dubai Tramp? He sits on the street corner, begging.

    Simon MultiverseSimon Multiverse12 soat oldin
  • the first lunar mission had a better audio than this video.

    Mohammed AL AnsariMohammed AL Ansari12 soat oldin
  • All my Phillips bulbs are frosted, I feel like clear glass is way better why do I have this trash?

    virtuevirtue12 soat oldin
  • Companies have figured out that Subscription are the way to stay alive. If you make a product that only needs to be bought one time. You'll be out of business real quick. Even Apple sees this, they aren't making money from selling iPhones, they make money form selling their many different subscriptions for music, games, movies, tv, and such. If Philips could put advertisement on their lightbulbs, it would be much more lucrative to make it last as long as possible.

    Brendon BBrendon B13 soat oldin
  • We bought a house last year, average power bill $179 per month. We swapped the electric water heater and stove for gas, and All 63 bulbs most 60watt, several outside 120 watt, for LEDs max 12watt. We then called our power company to please make note of the change, that we're expecting a substantial reduction in the power bill. The following month our neighborhood was refitted with more "accurate/ efficient" power meters that can be read from a remote box on the nearest power pole and reads to the minute. Our next bill....$227...... The entire neighborhood rates were increased. Feels like a losing battle.....Ugghhhh!

    Tim MorrisTim Morris13 soat oldin