Reaction to California’s Prop 22: Uber & Lyft

28-Okt, 2020
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The Patrick BetDavid Show Podcast Episode 21. In this clip Patrick Bet-David, Adam Sosnick and Byron Udell talk about Uber and Lyft's problems in California.
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  • Nothing good comes out of California anymore, what happened out there, they need to get their minds right. I know prop 22 failed but the fact it was put up is a bad sign.

    Dan iDan i2 kun oldin
  • Adam doesn’t have a car because he is a loser.

    Renita BellRenita Bell12 kun oldin
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    Rodolfo VitangcolRodolfo Vitangcol25 kun oldin
  • Uber and Lyft won. The people have voted in their favor.

    MiketheYung GodMiketheYung GodOy oldin
  • I was an independent airport shuttle driver (lease 100./24-7 1099) from 1989 thru 2016 making up to 1000. per day and paying the Ports their fees, this that the other. Our tariffs were based on zip codes, miles to Port approximations, they never changed in 30 years. The Uber and Lyft came to So Cal and gave cabbies, sedan cos a challenge but didnt affect vans out of the Port(s). I welcomed Uber in San Diego but the Port never charged the ride share newbys (its what shuttle essentially are modeled on) as they kept raising fees on shuttlw cos. I knew Uber & Lyft didnt make more per vehicle than what we made out of the Ports. Cabbies went to hustling for Uber, operating as jitneys, breaking the rules, picking up everything they could bargain for out of the Ports with bribes to hotel managers. Uber guys running ads on Craigslist for whatever, wherever were disenfranchised cabbies with a grudge making trips to Vegas for flat fees in Prius cars. Personally, I hate the fact that these tech cos are making billionaires outta guys who should be in jail. Kalanek! Dems let them get away with it and now I do gig work delivering food, multiapping with my buddies after we ditched our vans. I have time to play my guitar at home now, time to go to the gym, time to toy with my project cars and of course, time to play in quaratine with my sexy Romanian banker girl who calls me Big Daddy 👌

    OG1USAOG1USAOy oldin
  • It passed I voted yes Let them hustle and make more

    Angelo MartinezAngelo MartinezOy oldin
  • Ebay doesn't dictate how much you should list your item for. I don't think the drivers should be classified as employees, but they should allow drivers to determine their rate. This will let drivers compete with each other for riders.

    DonDonOy oldin
  • Bro California does not care about it’s people, the state is going to shit, high taxes, and a whole lot more 🤣

    Armando LopezArmando LopezOy oldin
  • ADAM. stop interrupting.

    TedTedOy oldin
  • love that Tom Zenner isn't in this video. dude, is just like those emotional liberals when it comes to keeping his cool.

    TedTedOy oldin
  • Yeah it’s just another situation where the governments well intended actions have and stronger negative unintended consequences.

    Derek Pool GuyDerek Pool Guy2 oy oldin
  • I have zero sympathy for Uber. They are just another shitty Big Tech company that uses their power to promote a Leftist agenda. Before anyone flaps their gums about this statement be aware that they provide free rides to protesters attending any Leftist event. In reality, their service is not hard to replicate at all. Everyone (except Uber) would benefit from a co-op or similar type of set up.

    texasRoofDoctortexasRoofDoctor2 oy oldin
  • Uber and Lyft spent almost $2 millions to keep the status cote!! not to benefit the drivers for sure. as a driver all we are asking for better pay and benefit just like any worker in USA. money talks

    all adventuresall adventures2 oy oldin
  • It is the wrong fight. First, uber lyft were enabled by the same politicians to compete with yellow cabs with almost no rules, and in the case of NYC without a license (medallion) and now, these politicians who created the problem wants to solve it. The only way to fix the problems that uber, lyft and all the alike have been doing to yellow taxis is to level the playing field. It is the AMERICAN WAY.

    marcelino herviasmarcelino hervias2 oy oldin
  • "does Tesla make a profit yet?" lol, OK. Amazon doesn't make a profit either - is it worthless too?

    tonydotkazetonydotkaze2 oy oldin
    • That is a poor comparison. Amazon does make a decent profit and Tesla manufactures a solid product. Uber is just a parasite that could be easily replicated with a better business model.

      texasRoofDoctortexasRoofDoctor2 oy oldin
  • Uber and Lyfts got greedy, thats what happens; everyone lose. You can’t compare eBay with rideshare, it was good at the beginning, but Uber and Lyft got greedy, if they just stick to what they said they gonna get, they wouldn’t be in this mess.

    Flora VerancesFlora Verances2 oy oldin
  • Too much power is evil.

    Kelly KKelly K2 oy oldin
  • Adam guys voice, tone,face annoy me

    Rob5886 oliRob5886 oli2 oy oldin
  • The self-driving car model is a pipe dream.

    Dennis MitchellDennis Mitchell2 oy oldin
  • It’s pure corruption. Never should have been on the ballot. Labor unions running gov of California

    James LockeJames Locke2 oy oldin
  • Hooray, uber and lyft just becomes taxi company.

    Ramon IndraRamon Indra2 oy oldin
  • California are ran by democrats, democrats are not getting paid by Uber and lift, so democrats are trying to push the out, Trump 2020

    Vic MedVic Med2 oy oldin
  • The way props were written on ballot was like a DMV test... Deceptive. Not enough pros and cons.

    Raul QuinteroRaul Quintero2 oy oldin
  • I almost want to avoid the videos where Adam is in it. He’s like an arrogant baby.

    Tc TcTc Tc2 oy oldin
  • No the kids are...taxx

    William WestWilliam West2 oy oldin
  • Man can you guys stop interrupting each other please

    Victor PopovVictor Popov2 oy oldin
  • Driving a rideshare app = a very dangerous coal mine. Just shut up and drive, for less money.

    Lance CharlesLance Charles2 oy oldin
  • That dummy actually thinks that self driving cars without a driver is gonna happen sometime soon haha

    MarkMark2 oy oldin
  • I never taken Lyft or Uber. The taxis are cheaper here.

    Stan’s Auto RepairStan’s Auto Repair2 oy oldin
  • California Lyft driver here. I have to say that the majority of us are so very happy that Prop 22 passed!! Now I just wonder how it will be affected with the judge passing that verdict. These politicians and unions are complete morons. I was a union steward at my last job for four years. I know these labor laws like the back of my hand. The current California labor laws state that an employer must put out a work schedule 7 days prior. So how can we have flexible work hours if we have to sign up for a schedule? What happens if we can’t work the shift we signed up for? How many schedules will there be? Can I continue to work weekends only so I can continue going to school? Labor laws also state that an employee must work 1250 hours in the PREVIOUS rolling year in order to be eligible for FMLA, which doesn’t even mean you’ll be paid for the unworked time. If we were employees, you’d have to work 25 hours or more every week for 52 weeks in order to accumulate 1250 hours worked. You can guarantee Lyft and Uber won’t actually work their employees more than 20 hours per week to avoid this and to avoid having to pay for their healthcare. Again, employees need to work full time in order to qualify for healthcare benefits. Do you really think Lyft and Uber would allow their employees to work full time? Hell no they won’t. They don’t want to pay for that. A lot of people that complain about the rates drivers make are usually the same drivers that sit in airport parking lots waiting for a ride. So of course those people aren’t going to make a livable wage. I drove weekends only at 25 hours in a weekend. I easily make $500 gross. That’s $25 an hour or more. Being an employee would limit what I can write off on taxes. Insurance, gas, miles, cell phone, et cetera. All these things would no longer be written off. There is also nothing stating when a company has to pay their employee for gas and/or miles. So keep that in mind too. Most companies have a conflict of interest clause in their code of business conduct or terms of working for them. So with that being said, you’d have to pick one rideshare or food delivery company to work for. You wouldn’t be able to work for both Uber and Lyft if you were an employee. That would cut down a lot of income from the typical rideshare and food delivery driver. Now let’s talk about the difference between the hours an employee can work versus an independent contractor. An independent contractor can work 14 hours before requiring a 6-hour break. The worker dictates when he or she wants to take their breaks as well as stop working. An employee is told when to start and when to stop. Most employers don’t even allow overtime. And who in their right mind would want to take overtime when it’s taxed at 40% instead of the normal rate? It’s considered a bonus and therefore it’s taxed at a higher rate. So for every dollar you earn, $0.40 of it is going to the government. It’s not worth it to the employee, but worth it for the government. See why they want us as employees? They see independent contractors as a loss of state revenue, even though we pay our taxes quarterly or yearly. Smh. Thank GOD Prop 22 passed. Can you update what it would mean for the Prop 22 to pass while a judge already said we should be employees? That would be really helpful. Thanks!! Remember, folks, the grass isn’t greener on the other side.

    Krazy Rabbit17Krazy Rabbit172 oy oldin
  • Has it become more likely to us that they must had cheated to stay in power?

    MergedElementMergedElement2 oy oldin
  • If Uber and Lyft can’t adapt. That’s fine. They can go. That leaves an empty pocket for another entrepreneur company to take the space.

    Phranzis_3Phranzis_32 oy oldin
    • @Ammar Napata taxi services are struggling. Due to Lyft and Uber. Same with certain hotels in places, due to airbnb

      Phranzis_3Phranzis_32 oy oldin
    • What space? They already have taxi services lol

      Ammar NapataAmmar Napata2 oy oldin
  • Ebay doesn't set prices. Uber undercuts drivers but setting low prices, if drivers are not employees why is Uber setting prices.

    Prince UbisiPrince Ubisi2 oy oldin
  • “I take Uber and Lyft everywhere.” So you’re bad with money.

    SmileySmiley2 oy oldin
    • @iszo so, he takes an Uber McDonalds? That’s an expensive burger.

      MiketheYung GodMiketheYung GodOy oldin
    • Versus a DUI or renting for a 2 day trip?

      iszoiszo2 oy oldin
  • Commufornia

    IOU TIOU T2 oy oldin
  • I JUST started Instacarting, and would not even consider doing this work if this passed in my state. The only reason I am is because I'm able to contract this work when I can and want to.

    Telum-XTelum-X2 oy oldin
  • All this new proposition is a step in the direction of eliminating unemployment funds. Don’t be surprised if all corporations start treating all their employees as contractors.

    Mary SantiagoMary Santiago2 oy oldin
  • It'll kill their business model as they spend 200 million on ads and billboards. Good One! California is about to go broke. This was never about drivers. It's about who is picking up the health insurance tab which Cali can't afford because 60 percent of all their taxes goes to pension shortfall. 6th largest economy in the world and they are going broke. You know the rhyme

    Mr AntmarMr Antmar2 oy oldin
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    John RitterJohn Ritter2 oy oldin
  • Didn’t conventional labor laws have to be skirted or simply quashed, to make Uber and Lyft possible, so that the Obama administration could take credit for creating “jobs“ and a “gig“ economy?

    P. BurleyP. Burley2 oy oldin
  • California leaders are DICTATORS!!!! No one ☝️ voted 🗳 for them but they seem to mysteriously gets voted in!!! DOMINION machine much 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐. California is waiting for PRESIDENT TRUMP to SAVE THEM.

    Faith LovelyFaith Lovely2 oy oldin
  • the geographic count and race ......has started!

    Mauricio Jesus CosioMauricio Jesus Cosio2 oy oldin
  • California is cancer

    JusticeJustice2 oy oldin
  • 👎prop 22...I left CA in '95 when I joined USAF. I now live in Florida with my family. Visiting CA now feels like visiting a foreign country; CA has changed so much in many ways and not for the better.

    Justyn MacFarlandJustyn MacFarland2 oy oldin
  • I like the model but wish the company had an insurance umbrella for the driver to pay an average of 50%. Too much risk for the driver for the pay. Govt wants in. Maybe make it a utility?

    schoolofthought edudotcomschoolofthought edudotcom2 oy oldin
  • good prop but its a half measure. messy to make laws this way; someone is left out: what if youre not app based. it should be: independent self-supplied workers can be contractors, or along those lines. even paper routes are done as contract work. my employer and our sales depend on doordash. thank you.

    DOR8421DOR84212 oy oldin
  • Let the free market Rock,

    guns and guitarsguns and guitars2 oy oldin
  • I am an Uber & Lyft driver here in New Mexico. I prefer to continue to be an independent contractor. I don’t want Lyft & Uber to try and control when I can or cannot log onto the platform. I personally would like to go back to the good all days where Lyft & Uber would give us 80% of what they would charge the customer. If anything else they can have a program set up for full-time drivers where we can have it discounted medical insurance with different providers that they can have a contract with. Think about it it won’t have these medical insurance providers to fight for our business and lower the cost of premiums to cover the independent contractor. Just to give you an idea I’ve been driving for Lyft 2 1/2 years and I have almost 6000 rides.

    Duke city Ride ShareDuke city Ride Share2 oy oldin
  • I think this video just got banned. Can’t make it play.

    Sharon AliceaSharon Alicea2 oy oldin
  • I think Uber and lyft need to change their motto. Instead of percentage of fair, just charge a flat fee to use the platform.

    Mr. Negative The Negative ManMr. Negative The Negative Man2 oy oldin
  • fck uber and lyft they are killing yellow cabs in nyc.

    Ed BuckleyEd Buckley2 oy oldin
  • So the california cartel wants there cut of money and the dam unions cartel also want there cut that is called extortion undercover as so call better rights don't like to work for lyft as is quit !!!! Hell jest don't open the app it ain't rocket science

    leon Dleon D2 oy oldin
  • I was all for Yes on Prop 22 and I'm sooo glad it passed! But I didn't understand the point in this video that being employees for competing businesses is impossible. I dont think that's quite true. I couldn't work for CVS and Walgreens at the same time? 🤔 I am glad we are independent contractors but I want to make sure our arguments are sound.

    The Watery CrabThe Watery Crab2 oy oldin
  • Uber isn’t a job !!! It’s a payday loan against your car

    Eric HousleyEric Housley2 oy oldin
  • So you guys are basically anti worker..

    Marlon BrimmerMarlon Brimmer2 oy oldin
  • People keep voting democrat. When I went to vote everytime it said. Build this and this prop pays for new strictures and rodes i say noooo. That means we're gonna tax you more baby

    jose garciajose garcia2 oy oldin
  • Been cdl driver since 1993 with otr and school busses been doing rides here n gigs for 3 years in n.m. its a a pretty smooth market for being small. in California would Uber have to provide vehicles? Other issues like higher insurance what about shop maintenance? Roadside maintenance spare vehicles, no more stock/ bot support maybe more personal contact with live dispatch? Take on as much apps as you can using and building up a little fleet for backup LEARN TO DO YOUR OWN REPAIRS hire on a couple of trusting drivers. Too many self serving drivers too strict about their own vehicles, rideshare is not for you go drive in your area for courier co. Or logistics run parts for a year then think about driving rideshare. Uber lyft instacart p.m. ,ddoordash gh. Like the DUSTIN IS DRIVING SAYS BACK UPS TO YOUR BACK UPS. good update thanks

    Marquitos PinoMarquitos Pino2 oy oldin
  • You guys are missing the point. It's an exploitation of labor. An exploitation of human beings. The drivers are paid enough to cover marginal costs, but not fixed costs. They're eating depreciation. And have 100% of the liability. A taxi driver back in the day could make a living driving a taxi. A rideshare driver does not.

    Michael HellerslienMichael Hellerslien2 oy oldin
  • people would get on a bus out of the airport just to get an uber? instead of using real Taxis. Sad times.

    Marc VincentMarc Vincent2 oy oldin
  • I hope the rest of the US can see California as an example of what not to.

    Jennifer ShaughnessyJennifer Shaughnessy2 oy oldin
  • it should be a no brainer to stay an independent contractor. keep control of your destiny

    Paul MarganiPaul Margani2 oy oldin
  • im going out of my household to visit ppl/invite to my household and dine out with who i like anyways. don't care what any province, mayor or govt says. Don't need them as a babysitter can use my own smarts since, been working so far. Not letting the fear mongering from media or govt control me.

    Paul MarganiPaul Margani2 oy oldin
  • Democrats know how to destroy a state and city!

    Clubber LangClubber Lang2 oy oldin
  • Who pushed this proposition....the taxi lobby?

    TheEdTeachTheEdTeach2 oy oldin
  • uzworld.info/player/video/pm2mbrV_f9ilZHg Arise Oh Lord, and let your enemies be scattered. Shine Your Face on president Trump!

    Jeogenes BiongcogJeogenes Biongcog2 oy oldin
  • Bald dude is a clown for thinking Tesla is 10x overvalued, they returned positive GAAP net income for a fourth straight quarter, they've quickly scaled the shit out of their manufacturing, and they are miles ahead of any other company using lidar for self driving. I'd also be interested to hear him break down a cost-benefit analysis of his "entrepreneurial" son (who simply sold shit on ebay) purchasing a used car. Just because his Dad works for some hack media company doesn't mean he's above buying a used car

    Tucker SantoroTucker Santoro2 oy oldin
  • Im so glad I moved from California.

    Mad VinegarMad Vinegar2 oy oldin
  • It's amazing how the left has been able to destroy such a beautiful state.

    DAS2012DAS20122 oy oldin
  • I’l drive for them in AZ it’s a side hustle nothing more nothing less. I work full time I drive after work and weekends for extra money. People who is this as a full time job are the ones crying about they want to be employees l. Get a driving job with a company don’t ruin this for all of us

    Bruce SharpBruce Sharp2 oy oldin
  • 6:00 “Not adjusted for inflation, period!” Don’t we want to adjust since the value of a dollar is less than yesterday?

    Andrew SAndrew S2 oy oldin
  • I voted yes on 22 leave them alone to do as they do I have a car but I have had a DUI and if I decide to drink ever again I want to use their service to avoid drinking and driving ..yes on 22

    Patriot JenaPatriot Jena2 oy oldin
  • I drove for Uber. This is a coveted opportunity no matter how it rolls out. Drivers are hungry 😋 it’s not funny that they keep playing with people’s livelihood. TLC or Cali Or Austin local Govt . Stop playing allow commerce to happen.

    Nina BanksNina Banks2 oy oldin
  • I drove for Uber. This is a coveted opportunity no matter how it rolls out. Drivers are hungry 😋 it’s not funny that they keep playing with people’s livelihood. TLC or Cali Or Austin local Govt . Stop playing allow commerce to happen.

    Nina BanksNina Banks2 oy oldin
  • I own more than one car and I love to drive.... no way on Uber or Lyft!

    D HD H2 oy oldin
  • My cars are paid off. I only use Uber/Lyft for business travel which is currently dead due to COVID...it's cheaper for me to have a car but I support Uber and Lyft drivers being independent.

    imageisn0thingimageisn0thing2 oy oldin
  • I tried working as a contractor. I would do it again but based on my last experience, I'd do it differently.

    podcastbardpodcastbard2 oy oldin
  • Welcome to communism. Just look at Venezuela.

    Rob KopRob Kop2 oy oldin
  • My big issue with prop 22 is that it was never needed...it is a exemption to a law that never needed to be passed ab5 completely fucked so many businesses and then the big tech companies want a exemption nah screw that let them burn with their ideals.

    devin andersondevin anderson2 oy oldin
  • One of the best part time jobs ever created with extremely flexible hours and California trying to hurt the ability of people to pick up extra money. Unbelievable.

    Azul SimmonsAzul Simmons2 oy oldin
  • I live in Los Angeles, never taken an Uber or Lyft but voted Yes on 22. Leave people alone, let them make a damn living. Stop with the government interference. Our Governor is totally incompetent.

    David EvansDavid Evans2 oy oldin
  • I am glad they passed the proposition. These companies using "contractors" to dodge fair labor practice laws, Social Security, and Medicare abuse people's need to work. Amazon is another example of a company that hires "contractors" to screw its employees over abd exploit them.

    Leo OzLeo Oz2 oy oldin
  • Yes communists think that people that sell things on ebay are employees

    Zenidiller ZenidillerZenidiller Zenidiller2 oy oldin
  • Jesus Christ I please ask that you save us from all this. please keep President Trump strong. we need to fight against these thieves and killers.

    D0nald TrumpsD0nald Trumps2 oy oldin
  • Audio is terrible ! Buy some better mics you have the money so spend it. 500 Dollars each but worth it

    MrRicksymMrRicksym2 oy oldin
  • Yes on Prop 22 passed. Yay! We keep our independence!

    U R Loved.U R Loved.2 oy oldin
    • Congratulations you get to stay poor and be fired at any time and your car will soon be junk and you will keep paying higher taxes while your wages keep dropping. Also it's a matter of time they take away the health care they are offering and you get absolutely no sick pay and no unemployment congrats on being a slave.

      Miss KittyMiss Kitty2 oy oldin
  • This is gold. The largest campaign for a single proposition in the history of our state was done for the worker huh? This must be a sponsored video. The ludicrous bounds of free-market fundamentalism is staggering.

    SolSol2 oy oldin
  • That guy's son who chased down magic Johnson for an autograph only to sell it, he sounds like a piece of shit.

    Dustin WhiteDustin White2 oy oldin
  • Voting yes screwed them

    Wm 0208Wm 02082 oy oldin
  • Welcome to communism. One step closer to The New World Order. California will lead the way over the cliff.

    mark munozmark munoz2 oy oldin
  • Don't ever mention polls again...🤨

    Jace JohnsonJace Johnson2 oy oldin
  • Why don't they just subsidize uber and lyft instead of pouring billions into public transit? Uber/Lyft get you literally anywhere, anytime. If it's subsidized, it will be cheap like public transit, and both Uber and Lyft make even more money. Imagine taking uber instead of of a bus? Think about how much time everyone would be saving if everyone can rideshare? Think about the traffic decongestion? Think about the C02 that would be diminished? It's a game changer, no question about it.

    fthis1234567fthis12345672 oy oldin
    • @DOR8421 Yep, it's heavily subsidized yet we still pay nearly $2/fare, and this is after ALREADY paying taxes into...Subsidizing rideshare(e.g. uber/lyft) is much more cost effective since the technology is already done, nearly perfected, and executing great. Above all, it's better than LITERALLY any other transit option we have now like trains and buses since both are no where near as dynamic(e.g. pickup/drop ANYWHERE) as Uber/Lyft. Because they're ridshares', it would exponentially decongest the roads and reduce CO2 dramatically almost overnight. Like any great change, there will be problems, I'm not denying that, but the sooner we get to it the better. Public transit is horribly in-efficient and expensive largely due to government only handling it. There needs to be more competition so things can keep getting better.

      fthis1234567fthis12345672 oy oldin
    • i tend to agree tho its hard to decide. public transport is heavily subsidized. your idea is good esp' if bus usage is low.

      DOR8421DOR84212 oy oldin
    • @DOR8421 I don't get what your point is. Are you agreeing or undecided???

      fthis1234567fthis12345672 oy oldin
    • buses have so many downsides. 1 or 2 buses to get somewhere, 1-way. plus walking a mile or more and waiting. buses are slow from all the stops and winding around. they block the road. gas guzzlers and often empty. im carless and live where there's an amazing bus system. i never use it. but if enough ppl use it it might work.

      DOR8421DOR84212 oy oldin
  • I'm a social democrat, but I find the attempts to fight Uber stupid! Imagine if people fought cars like that when they were invented to protect horse carts. Ridiculous!

    Maxim IlushenkovMaxim Ilushenkov2 oy oldin
  • The Uber drivers haven't been protesting for nothing.

    Errick JonesErrick Jones2 oy oldin
  • It's clear that you don't drive for Uber and I have over 5,000 trips and it's not as simple as you explain it because of your lack of knowledge of a driver.

    Errick JonesErrick Jones2 oy oldin
  • Mmm I don’t think the Uber/lyft pickup at lax works well, it’s just that he arrived during a pandemic and the airport is freaking empty. I’ve been there just a month ago and the airport is so empty compared to a year ago. When they first opened the new pickup area, people were waiting in line for over an hour just to get their Uber.

    Shaun PearceShaun Pearce2 oy oldin
  • Boycott uber and lyft

    Korey JuniewicKorey Juniewic2 oy oldin
  • Can’t believe there were people that wanted to become employees. W2 = Slavery and low wages. Nobody forced anybody to work there if they don’t like it they should go back to their previous minimum wage jobs. I feel like those who wanted to be employees are no skill minimum wage workers looking to drag everybody else down to their slave wages. I’m not even a driver and ab5 destroyed my industry. Prop 22 passed thank god! Prop 22 let’s them be 1099 and will give them some benefits now.

    Vincent SeranoVincent Serano2 oy oldin
  • Another glorious revolutionary victory over counter revolutionary liberty for The Party, comrades.

    Jim RrJim Rr2 oy oldin
  • Democrats are just terrible people.

    Easy EagleEasy Eagle2 oy oldin
  • The thing with these policies like prop 22. It's government saying we will protect you from yourself, but you have to pay for it, forced to, at gunpoint. Government has no right to tell businesses what to do. They become successful because people voting with their own money. If people wanted a different system, they would start a company implementing it. It's so basic and simple. Government wastes our money on things like this that only waste more money.

    Matthew SchraderMatthew Schrader2 oy oldin
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